ChatGPT↔Codex handoffs can cause false PASS results by losing requirements and completion criteria — request for unified context and locked acceptance criteria #40290
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ChatGPT↔Codex handoffs can break continuity of intent: requirements and “done” criteria agreed in ChatGPT can be reinterpreted downstream, causing completion judgment to drift.
This can produce false PASS results when Codex validates a proxy metric (for example, “time progressed”) while the actual human-observable usability requirements are still failing.
A real example was a “Detached simulation speed” feature that advanced simulation time quickly but effectively time-warped intermediate states, making mid-run observation, Stop, and manual actions unusable — yet it was reported as PASS based on the proxy.
Environment / component
Target feature
A self-developed game/project called “SANKAI CAPITAL,” specifically the Investment module.
The affected feature was simulation speed in a Detached Window:
Agreed requirements / acceptance criteria
The intended behavior was:
In other words, accelerated simulation should remain observable and interruptible.
What Codex treated as PASS
The automated test primarily measured how much simulation time advanced in approximately one real second.
The observed results were approximately:
Because simulation time advanced according to the speed setting, the feature was treated as PASS.
The exact internal test command was not preserved in my retained logs, so I will not reconstruct or guess it.
Human test result: FAIL
The actual user-visible behavior did not satisfy the intended feature.
At higher speeds such as 100x, the system behaved closer to a time warp: one update could jump tens or hundreds of simulation minutes.
As a result:
So the proxy metric passed, while the actual user-facing requirement failed.
Relevant implementation detail
From the retained implementation information:
I cannot reliably determine from the retained logs whether all rendering and input processing were on exactly the same JavaScript thread/event loop, so I do not want to claim that.
Core problem
The central problem is not only this particular simulation-speed bug.
The larger problem is that requirements and completion criteria can become weakened or reinterpreted when work is handed from ChatGPT to Codex.
In this case:
“Final simulation datetime advanced sufficiently”
became a successful proxy for:
“The accelerated simulation remains observable, responsive, and manually interruptible.”
Those are not equivalent.
The proxy passed, but the actual human requirement failed.
This creates a dangerous failure mode:
ChatGPT conversation
→ requirements and intended behavior are agreed
→ task is handed to Codex
→ Codex creates or chooses its own measurable proxy
→ proxy passes
→ Codex reports PASS
→ human uses the result
→ actual feature is still FAIL
The problem becomes especially costly in larger projects because subsequent work may continue on top of a false PASS.
Primary feature request: Integrated ChatGPT + Codex mode
I would like an integrated mode where ChatGPT and Codex do not behave as separate stages with a lossy handoff.
The same conversation context, requirement state, and completion judgment should persist end-to-end across:
specification
→ implementation
→ execution
→ testing
→ PASS / FAIL decision
The agent performing implementation and testing should evaluate completion against the same criteria that were agreed with the user, rather than against a re-summarized or reinterpreted version of the task.
Ideally, ChatGPT could retain its conversation-level understanding and judgment while directly using Codex-class capabilities for:
This would reduce the need for a separate AI-to-AI handoff entirely.
Interim / complementary solution: Criteria Lock
If a fully integrated mode cannot be provided immediately, an intermediate solution would still be very useful.
When ChatGPT delegates work to Codex, allow a structured and immutable “Criteria Lock” contract to be attached to the task.
This contract should remain authoritative for the entire task.
It should include at minimum:
For example:
“Simulation time advancing quickly is NOT sufficient for PASS.
PASS additionally requires:
Codex should not silently replace these criteria with an easier proxy.
A GitHub-Issue-like structured format could work well for this purpose because the success conditions remain explicit and auditable.
Evidence-based PASS gating
Codex should map evidence to each locked acceptance criterion before reporting PASS.
For example:
If evidence for any required criterion is missing or ambiguous, Codex should return INCONCLUSIVE or FAIL.
It must not declare PASS solely because a proxy metric passed.
In particular:
If evidence is missing or ambiguous, Codex must not declare PASS based solely on proxy metrics.
Proposed solutions
Integrated mode — primary request
Provide a unified ChatGPT + Codex mode that preserves the same conversation context and judgment state end-to-end:
spec → implementation → execution → testing → PASS/FAIL.
Acceptance decisions should be made against the original agreed criteria rather than a re-summarized handoff.
Criteria Lock — interim/complementary solution
When delegating to Codex, attach a structured, immutable checklist that Codex must treat as authoritative:
Proxy tests must not produce PASS unless all required human-observable criteria are evidenced.
Evidence-based PASS gating
Require Codex to provide concrete evidence mapped to every locked criterion.
If evidence is missing or ambiguous, Codex must return INCONCLUSIVE/FAIL and must not declare PASS based solely on proxy metrics.
Why this matters
Automated tests are valuable, but a technically measurable proxy is not necessarily the user's actual requirement.
The more autonomous Codex becomes, the more important this distinction becomes.
A system capable of making large code changes needs an equally strong mechanism for preserving the user's original definition of “done.”
Otherwise, greater implementation capability can also increase the cost of a false PASS.
The goal of this request is not to remove automated testing.
It is to make sure automated testing remains subordinate to the acceptance criteria that were actually agreed with the user.
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